Advertising campaign success and agency compensation are increasingly tied to outcomes as measurement has become more robust, says  Marla Kaplowitz, President and CEO of the 4A’s, the trade association of the advertising industry, in this podcast conversation with me.

She speaks about the 4A’s four pillars of media responsibility. And reflects on how the pandemic and the racial justice movement of the past year have accelerated change.

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